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Postby optipub » Tue Aug 12, 2003 4:56 am

http://www.gazette.com/olive_feat/

you will see a link to "LEARN MORE" on the top, once you click this you will see a demo of what i would like to know how abouts it works, looks like there parsing somehow from pdfs, i like the way you can zoom in on a section, move from page to page, can anyone explain to me how this is done???

everything else is done in php
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Re: anyone know how this works? amazing!

Postby WiZARD » Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:44 am

you may do it using PHP, MySQL and Flash from Macromedia.com
.pdf? for what? it's good if you wish what user may save document localy, or the publisher use firstly .pdf
you have a dozen variants......
or it's Java, but i'm not sure......
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Postby swirlee » Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:08 am

Since I can't actually see it in action, I can't say for sure, but I seriously doubt that they're "parsing PDFs". There's no reason to do that, at least not in realtime, because an online version of a print newspaper would only change as often as the print paper itself. That is, never. Well, until the next issue comes out, at least. Considering the purported zooming effects and all, it's likely just a Flash MX page. I'd guess that all they do is export (from their printing program, Quark or whatever) each issue's layout and articles to a Flash-readable format (which is trivial), then import them into Flash MX and add all of the nifty features there. It's probably about a day's work or so for each issue, depending on how many people they have working on it. I rather doubt there's anything more complex about what they do -- nothing dynamic and there's probably very little automation going on.
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Postby WiZARD » Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:42 am

Quark??? For what?
XML!
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Postby swirlee » Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:01 am

WiZARD wrote:Quark??? For what?
XML!


I'm not talking about what they should use, I'm talking about what they probably use, and there's a 95% chance that they use Quark for the layout of their paper newspaper, because Quark is the de facto standard layout tool of the publishing industry. Just because they should be using a modern tool like XML doesn't mean they are, and in fact, they probably aren't. Since the online version of the newspaper is supposedly just an "enhanced" version of the paper version (e.g. same articles, photos, and layout with some fancy extras), they're probably working from the same source for the web version, e.g. Quark. Got it?
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Postby optipub » Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:19 am

I am planning on a launch for the company i work for right now the papers are output to quark and pdf, i plan on using mysql and php for this, any suggestions on how about i should go with this? i plan on having a admin section where i can go in and upload the picture and paste in the story into a text field which will then be updated in the database, i also have to setup ecommerce so that once they goto the site any non member will get only parts or the paper , and members will get to view the entire paper, any suggestions or anything i should be aware of before i go ahead?
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Postby WiZARD » Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:25 am

swirlee wrote:
WiZARD wrote:Quark??? For what?
XML!


I'm not talking about what they should use, I'm talking about what they probably use, and there's a 95% chance that they use Quark for the layout of their paper newspaper, because Quark is the de facto standard layout tool of the publishing industry. Just because they should be using a modern tool like XML doesn't mean they are, and in fact, they probably aren't. Since the online version of the newspaper is supposedly just an "enhanced" version of the paper version (e.g. same articles, photos, and layout with some fancy extras), they're probably working from the same source for the web version, e.g. Quark. Got it?

understand but i'm not sure what Quark is good idea to use for publishing news..... I'll be use somthing like Adobe PageMaker
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Postby pootergeist » Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:34 am

php|arch uses a similar approach - a linked pdf file that is password protected. You can download last Jans issue and see for yourself.
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